CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. CINDY: Yep. He was afraid of running into friends, relatives or acquaintances of people who knew his many victims. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? Or was it some other color? Glenn Flothe, AST. I just want to do everything. It was plain. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. CINDY: Sunday. He remains active in the markets. FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. CINDY: Yep. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. CINDY: Looked kinda like this, with a really long barrel. She was hysterical, half-clothed, and had an unbelievable story of survival to tell. This looks black but its actually blue. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. Do not sell or share my personal information. FLOTHE: Number five. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. Glenn Flothe, AST. Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. On his terms. FLOTHE: OK. Its been some time since you last talked to him, in fact, its been quite some time. But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. Black or brown? (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was I overslept. So its early in the morning How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? Glenn had been involved in the investigation of three murdered women; these victims had obviously been connected, they had all been discovered at least partially nude, theyd been shot with the same type of firearm, and buried in a shallow grave. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. The others were never located. FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. And if Im not mistaken I think he had a green or a light t-shirt underneath it. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. However, she was never identified and Hansen died last month aged 75, while serving a 461-year sentence in Alaska. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? FLOTHE: Like this? What made you want to do it? FLOTHE: And did you pick an individual out that was But after some bodies were found by hunters in the area, investigators re-visited suspects and realized he fit the profile. CINDY: No. They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than Cindy coughs.) Construction of the trans-Alaska oil pipeline ignited nightlife in the city blocks surrounding his bakery. He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. The FBI had been spot on about everything. CINDY: Tons Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! The hair on the back of his neck stood up and his neck got red, and he was pissed," Rothschild said in a phone interview Thursday. FLOTHE: Did you get into his car, or did he just get out or what? Looking at picture number five, is there anything different about him as you saw him, compared to the picture, Robert Hansen Police Lineup Photo FLOTHE: Really dark color. REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. I can tell you (inaudible) I can describe the plane to you. Hansen didn't see his victims as human, the attorney said. CINDY: On. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. I just had no idea what it would be like for me to be fully authentic at work.. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). Required fields are marked *. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. FLOTHE: OK. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. My left wrist, right there FLOTHE: OK. So the next day, which was Sunday (sniffles), I was on Fourth and Denali and this gentleman had been by and pulled in the parking lot and offered me, and I got in the car voluntarily, I was talking with this man and he offered me $200 for a blowjob in the car. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. Why not be the first to send us your thoughts, Hansens Den (Alaska State Troopers) You see, when we was driving I observed everything. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. Your email address will not be published. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. Hudgens: Honestly, its even better than I thought it was going to be. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. FLOTHE: Hairstyle? Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. FLOTHE: What do you mean by a cut in the back? Cindy . If you do exactly what I tell you and don't give me any problem whatsoever, there's going to be no -- you won't get hurt in any way, shape or form," Hansen told troopers, according to news accounts at the time. CINDY: The automatic opener. Scott did an amazing job at keeping a very steady uproar and pace. Way down on the floor. Flothe said. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? Investigators have said that in some instances Hansen would rape the women but return them to Anchorage, warning them not to contact authorities. I always wanted to do dramas. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? OK, well he was taking me from being downstairs to the airport, to go get in his plane, the seat was not in the back seat, it was in the trunk, cause he kept going from the trunk carrying things to fit in the airplane. [Installment Three]. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. CINDY: He just drove by. FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. Required fields are marked *. FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. Im not going to help you do that, all right? He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. CINDY: I dont think so. FLOTHE: On the inside of your left wrist. FLOTHE: Was it this one here is called like a checkered grip. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. He takes Paulson to a hospital and her clothes are kept for a rape Kit. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. As was Hansens wont, he wanted to feel things out. He was 75 years old. About four stairs to get into the house. FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? CINDY: Regular Just working boots. "As far as Hansen is concerned, this world is better without him." FLOTHE: And contact Cindy at this phone number and this room number CINDY: I think he gave me a five. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. Your email address will not be published. "He's one of those kind of guys that you kind of hope every breath he takes in his life, there's some pain associated with it, because he caused such pain," Rothschild said. CINDY: Yep. CINDY: Nope. This site is not free, I pay more than $300 just to keep this. Handle was brown. CINDY: Some times they were. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/2017/09/08/robert-hansen-graves-along-knik/. CINDY: Yep. or debate this issue live on our message boards. FLOTHE: Did he tell you what his name was? Ducks and birds. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. Hansen was convicted in 1984 after confessing to killing 17 women, mostly dancers and prostitutes, during a 12-year span in the 1970s and 80s. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. FLOTHE: In your face? Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. John Paulson. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. She was a prostitute who was kidnapped and raped before managing to escape, but when she went to the police, Hansen evaded arrest because the lead investigator didn't . 10,285 views Aug 26, 2013 In an up close interview, former Disney sweetheart Vanessa Hudgens shares her admiration towards serial killer Robert Hansen's surviving victim Cindy Paulson .more. 'We're not trying to solve the crime. On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. Hudgens: Were shooting for either late December or the beginning of next year. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. See how my sights are painted with an orange CINDY: Um I think it was around six. Hansen was the subject of a 2013 film titled, 'The Frozen Ground,' which starred Nicolas Cage as an Alaskan State Trooper investigating the slayings, with actor John Cusack portraying Hansen. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. Dont worry. Were the lights on or off? The story of Hanson eluding police and his eventual capture became the subject of a 2013 movie, "Frozen Ground," starring John Cusack as the killer and Nicholas Cage as an Alaska state trooper. FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. CINDY: Yeah. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde FLOTHE: Hmm. Her name is Cindy Paulson. FLOTHE: What did the gun look like? Okay. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. CINDY (cont. After hed heard what Cindy had to say, Glenn knew a few things to be true. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. And he had called me and I slept through it. FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. Cause at the time, I was very new to Alaska and I dont never go to anybodys house. Like a station wagon. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? Investigators are certain that number 17 is small it is thought that Roberts body count is really in the thirties. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Identifying and finding Hansen's weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the " Butcher, Baker ." CINDY: Uh huh. Some people dont care to dive into it, but its the reason that I do this. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. It was during this 30 month prison stint that he was diagnosed as bipolar with schizophrenic episodes, and wife number one filed for a divorce. Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? And the reality of it is were all human. FLOTHE: This car that was in the driveway how new or old was this car? FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. It seems that every source I looked at says something different, though generally within those three years. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. CINDY: No. I really respect that. With a cut in the back. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? OK, that wasnt even back there. 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And I was supposed to meet him but I didnt show up cause I overslept. CINDY: I gave him the number at the Big Timber. It had a long barrel. But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? CINDY: I believe it was right there right across from the Sheraton on Fifth and Denali. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. CINDY: Yes, directly. (inaudible) I guess Im superstitious, so I dont like talking about things until they happen, but there are a few things in the works. There was also a collection of newspaper articles about the killer and his missing victims, and a map with little X marks all over it which indicated where hed dumped his victims. We all have the same needs. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). Hudgens: I thought it was pretty spot on. Dont cause no problems and I wont hurt you. You know, I was supposed to meet him. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. Hansen grew up in Iowa, the son of immigrant bakers. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Can you tell us how that all came about? In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. Previously I would avoid the conversation about my significant other, she says. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. (Source: Anchorage Police Department) Cindy Paulson was a 17-year-old dancer and sex worker living in Anchorage with her mother.