These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. My M104 is a 99 hfm. I just like to make plan on what and how I am going to do it so when it comes time I know exactly what needs to be done. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. Any slk egne fit in there? Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. After 6 years of reading this forum, I was under the impression that a 5L LH M119 will install neatly into a 400E, 100% of the time for 10 times less than what JC220 wants to charge some incognizant stranger? Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. the mercedes is a DD that gets 30mpg that looks good. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. What are some 1/4 time and or top speed #'s for people have done these swaps? The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. Find a decent but cheap 400e or a very cheap 500e and bite the bullet on cost upfront and invest the time to make it 'good'. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. Said it made around 345hp(?) For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. But any ways, what engines can I put in my 190? Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. AMG would be nice and or a V8. The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Source: VRP Fab (large build gallery) via ESD reader Piotr. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Only 100 cars like mine ever imported into the US, really, I don't know, can anyone cite accurate numbers? In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. Heater core and radiator connections are both identical, M103 vacuum hard line fits well, 124.104 PS Pump has larger fittings 201.103 is direct replacement just swap over rear mount bracket, late model 124 AC discharge lines up with condenser..suction just needs one crimp to combine 103 upper and 104 lower half R R0BB09 E500E Newbie Aug 10, 2019 Mercedes w203 Engine Swap "The Plan" (Pt.1) M271|M104|M111 Ricer Benz 4.27K subscribers Join Subscribe 143 Share 10K views 2 years ago M111 turbo Video link :. I would also like to do suspension up grades and a EVOII kit in the future. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. Is that a street car? these are quite uncommon. '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '90 300SEL, '51 Euro 170S, '15 G63 AMG. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. BenzWorld.org forum is one of the largest Mercedes-Benz owner websites offering the most comprehensive collection of Mercedes-Benz information anywhere in the world. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. So my question and a big debate in my mind is how practical it is for a swap of M119 from a 1992 500 SL. Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. His forum name is SG Motorsports. Learn how your comment data is processed. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. engine alone. Lower hose is only about 20cm long. Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. Once all the wiring is laid out it is pretty simple to figure out. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. Connect common ground at intake manifold. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. Sweden for a dyno tune. Another 500e wagon is born: Silver / Gray | High-Performance Modifications, Imperial Red 500E Wagon Build | High-Performance Modifications, SOLD - 1995 E420 Special Edition, Brilliant Silver/Gray, 113k, $4900 (Tampa, FL) | 400E / E420 Cars for Sale. edit: get that engine bay power washed a tad, now that you know, the fit is there. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. History, Power & Specs of the Engine M104 2.8 L M104.900 3.0 L M104.98x 217 to 228 hp@ 6400 rpm 265Nm (195lbft@ 4600) (with cat) Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? Swapped! . JavaScript is disabled. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. cheap way ,and use procharger instead. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. I saw one real nice one on the web that had a AMG 3.8 in it. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. In order to use the M104 CIS intake box, the supply line must be swapped. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The 20% difference consists of 10% engine/gearing, 8% bodywork and interior, and 2% everything else. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. Going to add the flywheel magnet to a single mass M103 FW, Forgot to mention this is also a non-ASR engine, the amount of wire harnesses and modules even on the simpler 6cyl is a bit staggering.I think adapting a BMW M50 motronic would probably be easier, Steve Geyer has done this swap with his 190E, he would be an excellent source for this. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. it isnt a direct swap. What engine can fit into this car? whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. The injection system is still CIS and the ignition system is still EZL, but additional work is required to make the swap complete. My daily is an LS swapped 80 series land cruiser. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. 1975 W116 280S - SOLD 1994 W124 E320 Coupe - Gone CURRENT - 1974 450SEL s class W116 Addict Posts: 4,213 I'll keep the 116's, the rest can go Location: Squeezing 3 W116's into a double garage Logged #1 19 August 2010, 12:38 PM Using the ones meant for a W124 will result in the engine sitting too high and interfere with hood closing, Removed the engine mount support arms from the original 190E motor and transferred to the new M104 motor. I am currently working on a my W201 2.6 project car. Is there a worthy replacement for the 190E 2.6. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. Set starter in place if it isn't already and reconnect wires. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed. __________________. I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. Doing the upgrades on an E420 is plug+play, and easily done if you have the ability to handle an engine swap. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. The sedan rides on Yellow Racing coilovers, OZ Future wheels (179,1712), CL600 front brakes, and 300TE rear brakes. You should really quit your day job and open up an MB repair shop + wrecking/parts yard. 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support. Hi Adriano. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. Learn how your comment data is processed. i think you would need to splice int he wiring harness from the 104. it is alot of work if i had to do this i would do a m117 swap. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. I think you meant steering box/column from a w201 (not W210) W103 is what you meant. I used 400E brakes, but the nicest is using 95 SL 600 brakes up front and rearThe rear are vented rotors instead of solidI've seen racing slicks lock up with 190Es and no ABS with these brakesBut be prepared for another $1200. CLK, W209. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. Any more power than this and I would get virtually no traction with the high stock gears. Makes a fantastic daily driver. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. Looks like im gonna be spending a lot of money on this projecthehe. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. Doesn't the 93 sportline have the switchable differential? Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. It's lacking power to spin the big heavy 18" AMG monoblock wheels it came with, so I'm looking into an engine swap. You must log in or register to reply here. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I have plenty of tuning spirit, but some things are best left alone. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! Then swap in a 2.65-2.82 differential (in place of the 2.24 granny gears) and, optionally, a 5.0L engine. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? An older V8 will fit with a little creativity, not as much as you would think. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . A solution to fix this is to use the M104 A/C manifold (104 230 04 56 is NLA, aftermarket solution: Four Seasons 55586) and have both hoses custom made. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU and it made 800 horsepower and 930 Nm of torque to the wheels. MB 300E 24v Turbo MS3X. If the fuel pump runs does this indicate power? Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? It's 80%. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. from my search I limit the option for an engine swap between the M104.980 from w124 300ce 24v and the M104.990 from a W140 320. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. Every panel is made from FRP (fiber-reinforced plastic) except for A-pillar, C-pillar, and roof. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Another option is to swap in the CIS version of the M104 engine found on the earliest M104 powered cars (1990-1992 300CE and 1990-1993 300SL). with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. VIN: WDBEA34EXSC224807 FIN: WDB1240341C224807 Engine no. The work in the trunk involved installing a new fuel cell, fold-down radiator, expansion tank, and tubular structure. easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. If you want a really nice one, I'm guessing it will likely end up in the $4-$8k ballpark. Not needed anyhow. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. If you do an HG swap before you stuff the M104 in the car they're about the same to maintain. used 2jz is about 3500-10000 $. Mercedes W124 with a 1000 hp Turbo M104 Inline-Six November 6, 2019 W124 This Mercedes W124 300E called "Blueberry" is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. I think if you're looking for a fast 124, you have a bunch of options that'll be cheaper than swapping a v8 into an I6 car. Hi i'm looking for some information on swapping my w201 (2.0 automatic) for a manual 2.8 m104. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). Probably $5k for the engine, $1.5k for the tranny, and the cost of the computer plus labor, figer 9-12. How much power can you get out of the 16v? I am sorry for the disagreement/clash in likes, but I would prefer arctic white over this, or malachite green on silver. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. Its a 3.0, 7000rpm limit, and 228hp, 201 lb.ft. Remove with transmission attached. Mounting the 190E A/C manifold to the engine block introduces a problem where the A/C compressor can no longer be mounted to the accessory bracket. The engine features stock crank, Turbobandit 143 mm H-beam rods, stock pistons, stock bearings, Enem camshafts, double valve springs, Audi R8 coilpacks, and 2200 cc injectors. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. I've gotten the complete HFM/CC/ISC harnesses out, ready to harvest more. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. I believe the engine carrier would need to be modified. Power will be greater with an LS swap. I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Was real nice. ugh! You are using an out of date browser. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Note that the battery is located under the hood on an E320, and the couple of computers there are, are located just behind the battery under the windshield. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. The M104 A/C manifold's low pressure hose cannot reach the connection point at the edge of the fender on a 190E chassis. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. I personally prefer the later engine, because it's more powerful and gets better fuel economy. 1- the M104.980 should be direct one due o the similarity with my M103 2.6 CIS system, but I need to have the ECU, the EZL and the harness. I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Power is sent through a 4-inch driveshaft to a BMW E34 differential modified to fit the factory Mercedes subframe. What did you need to do to convert the coils from the three coils and three wires to six individual invention coils on the m104 engine? No matter how i lean it back and forth the steering box is not touching anything, the engine mounts are in the correct place it and it has like a 2-3 cm gap from the starter. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" both m104 and 2jz handle 1000hp but the price is real big difference. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. W201 ) but it is possible the ECU, the EZL unit and. Not a straight 6, right i saw one real nice one on the web that had 3.0L. '85 Euro 190E 2.3-16, '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Wrangler. And cheap power however since i wasnt inclined to do a trans.... W201 2.6 project car of the wire E500E would be add two injector before throttle body let. Understand why, https: //teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and structure... 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