I still had responsibilities, I still had bad days but it was all worth it. The Algarve, however, excellent place in Portugal. It's not all political jibber jabber lies, it's equations and facts! I always felt like if I moved there I would be able to achieve ultimate happiness in my life. People in general seem pretty chilled. We thought we needed to give them some respect and have decided to trademark our sweets. The internet was flooded with articles about where should the Brits move now that the Brexit happened. So travel around the UK doesn't come cheap. I want Britain to get better, because it is my home and I am and love being British. I do believe it should have its own independence and continue to be part of the EU as its citizens want. I will certainly find it challenging, especially because I voted stay. We called it our long honeymoon. So what the fuck are you on about? I really appreciate your explanation and I am truly glad to hear an argument from the other side of the debate. Or? Typical patronising, sneering, condescending arrogant attitude of a leftie remainer voter. Sorry I'm late to the party, but I'll post anyway. It feels to me that you voted Brexit because you don't want more British nationals to come to Europe and not because you had the UK's interest at heart. No country is perfect, but if you consider our history, museums, NHS, free education, the honesty of our police force and courts, business opportunities, freedom of speech, music, religious diversity, food safety (a huge problem in Asia by the way), lack of corruption, the countryside, quality of regulation, its military, animal rights, gender equality, gay rights, time zone, infrastructure, I still content the UK is one of the best countries to live in the world. No offence, but millennials tend to romanticise the far left. I'm still searching for the answer but got lost somewhere along the way. You Could Travel All Rights Reserved 2016 - 2023.Use of the content of this website for AI and ML training is prohibited.Privacy Policy | Disclaimer. So far, since we left the UK, we have lived in Japan, Portugal, Spain, Hungary and Germany. And the weather, sadly, it's true :(. I am so glad I left that world. Politicians havent listened to the people on this issue and Brexit was a cry for help. I am super excited to learn that you liked Romania. So I feel fair to comment on this. Outside brilliant minds are no longer welcome to contribute to the Great British societies and money is being invested in privatisation and corporations as opposed to a stable economy, educated, informed and healthy population. What a load of rubbish. Best wishes for your move. It's like someone has brought all my thought and captured it in a well written text! I'm 30, resident of south East Northumberland in my childhood and then Newcastle as an adult, and have known the term Charver for as long as I can remember. This along with the supposed 1 million violent crimes committed due to alcohol per year and the 25% increase in liver diseases, suggests we can't handle our drink either. Let me tell you about the art of British food. I am glad you have found a place in Germany where you feel welcomed and integrated. Here, in Estonia, the winter is 6 months - cold, sometimes snowing, dark, wet, depressing weather. Perfect response. But no one wants to live in Scotland! Hello Faith, thank you for your comment. I will go further and suggest there is a lot of naivety amongst younger generations around the world. Bravo to your writing skills! 806 8067 22 Registered Office: Imperial House, 2nd Floor, 40-42 Queens Road, Brighton, East Sussex, BN1 3XB The Midlands, SE, and even parts of the NE have less rain. I've yet to witness anti-social behaviour here. I find it comic you mention Elon Musk aiding Trump because Musk is an immigrant who IS born in Pretoria, South Africa who grew up in Canada (again, not America) and THEN came to America. I grew up in 'Middle England' Home Counties and have lived in the Midlands and Yorks so have a fair view of Britain, England (vs London) and consider myself (and family) thoroughly British (I open my mouth and you will agree too!). You see, books and stories can have a wonderful influence on us all. Yet, almost 9 Million (!) As i said before the cleaning in the streets and order let it be maintained, makes the city more beautiful and also helps the environment. I am treated like a stellar class citizen. I'm from the UK and my wife is Romanian, we travel internationally a fair amount both for work and pleasure and so I'd like to think I have a fairly broad perspective. "I love the British culture". Now living in Egypt is not without its problems but look at these prices: Cinema: 2, Restaurant: 5, Cultural Events: many are free, Internal travel: very cheap along with accommodation, gas and electricity being much cheaper than the UK or the EU and dont forget the Red Sea for a holiday. People always blame it on individuals and never on parties, politic beliefs or societies. But I guess you took the right decision :/, Hi Cristina, it is very hard to leave the known and take a leap of faith into the unknown. In saying all the above and I agree with what I've written my family and I chose to.leave the uk to give our children a better life. Really fantastic article, very important to share different perspectives on the state of the UK at the moment. Getting used to life in the UK takes some time for sure. The best years were probably (economically and socially) from mid 1990's, 1993 until 2008 (esp the boom Blair years). On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. And we've come to the conclusion, that there's no place like home.. Those are the people who will wonder how come that people voted Brexit? [11], It has also been suggested that the term is derived from the name of the town of Chatham, in Kent, but the Oxford English Dictionary thinks this is "probably a later rationalization". We just made positive gains as a society in how we viewed foreigners role within our society and gradually people became less extreme. It sounds like it, my friend. my heart is there , my heart is here .. I wish you all the best, MJ. It is quite a harrowing existence at times where I sit and contemplate how screwed I am living in this country. I mean I left Romania because I didn't like it and wanted a better life for myself. . It is interesting hearing these thoughts coming from someone that has immigrated to the UK, tried to integrate to your best ability and come to terms with the fundamental problems this country faces - even down to the petty and subjective nature of these things, like how you spell "Stacy". The food quality both in restaurants and in supermarkets is awful, but a Brit friend explained me that's because most people eat to survive not to actually enjoy the meal. Plus I wouldn't want to negate your experience anyway. No country or culture is perfect of course, but we always have to ask ourselves what we're willing to put up with and sometimes it's not worth it. Whether we're talking about comparatively deprived areas such as Jaywick, which one resident memorably described as 'like a Brazilian favela' or a posher market town such as Torquay - a town where, according to one disenchanted local "chavs . I wish you all the luck. But its like I've always maintained since the vote happened is that lots of people voted Brexit for many complex reasons. How people can be close-minded in their views of the world. May is freezing! We have a better technological infrastructure than most of Europe as well. In modern Britain, the working class has become an object of fear and ridicule. For example from london eye to Stonehenge, are very different places but both beautiful. Germany thought about it. I hope you find true peace and happiness. I've always lived here and there's lots to be grateful for but well, I find it just a little bit depressing. Reading this gave me a peace of mind. I could NEVER find work here. Well, if you are going to Japan things won't be easy there is much more difficult to integrate in Japan than UK, you are really targeting difficult countries, but is your choice. Maybe we didn't find our space in the South. There are cheap things too but expect to get what you pay for. What a load of crap. And guess what? But it's starting to pop up again, with quite a few creators on TikTok and other platforms making videos that take the mick out of. Im not alone. Biased review - well yeah, I mean it is my site. They just dont get to vote. Its over ambitious maybe. Dickhead. Think beautiful places in Scotland, stunning beaches in Cornwall and romantic places in England. Dream! This was mainly because we loved and believed in Tony Benn. This means that I was born abroad, came here and worked very hard to integrate myself to the point I would be accepted and deemed to be called a British citizen. The prices are similar across all high-income countries across North Europe. I can bet on that! Can you imagine that? After the novelty of the tourist attractions wore off I always felt that at some point it would feel like home but it never did. I'm grateful for your honesty, I sure know it's not easy to find the courage to admit when things are not peachy. I live in Argentina, and as an EU citizen, I'm planning on moving to the UK before March 29, Brexit tentative date, looking for new opportunities for me. What British culture was I referring to? At first I got a bit touchy and defensive around some of the elements but then stopping to think about it, I've actually seen many of my own observations in what you have written. That sums it up. Senility is an ugly condition. Some of these guys were around in the 80's and were punks back then (the non racist kind). Am I wrong? Think carefully. Foreigners cant even buy a house in New Zealand anymore. The main reason is that I see the EU as being an impossible project, led by weak consensus politicians with no grand vision for economic growth. Paul. In the last 30 years, We have seen our own lives turned upside down, our cities transformed into places where we are sometimes the minority, where few people speak English. They're not uneducated, racist or anything else that the left or the pro EU lot think which is very closed mided (In my view) if they've come to that conclusion. However, the term, 'chav' is quite specific. However, what I got was the complete opposite :). I get it, nobody likes foreigners. I moved to London 6 months ago from another wealthy Western European country, in search of better work opportunities, to further my career and basically to build a life. In this groundbreaking investigation, Owen Jones . [11], In his 2011 book, Chavs: The Demonization of the Working Class, Owen Jones argued that the word is an attack on the poor. I understand and appreciate your opinions. I don't like the sunshine so no, I didn't expect wall to wall sunshine. This got me thinking. I don't blame you at all for wanting to leave. From Downton Abbey, the UK became more of a Harry Brown. The typical food in England is something that is also consumed in Chile, and is one of the things that I liked more of the country, both its sweet and salty food has very good flavor and is something that could eat every day without problem. This makes your comment about separating rubbish as a frustration a little lacking in historical context. I've lived in 6 different countries, and in my opinion, the UK offer the worst quality of life. It has changed from a land of invention and innovation to that of bloated consumer. It's merely a route to (SE) England. In the end, I left my job at Apple, moved to Bristol, got a new job with a digital startup, met my future husband, formed our own company, started travelling the world, became British citizens, got married and here we are. Every other day Im in a ball on my bathroom floor wishing I didnt have to do it all again tomorrow. I've contemplated getting a car dozens of times but it always turns out more expensive than not owning one. I lived in so many countries and I tend to very sociable, open and tolerant. Susie Dent's Larpers and Shroomers: The Language Report, published by the Oxford University Press, designated it as the "word of the year"[29] in 2004. You could say that it was a change of the country or it was us that have understood more of the society where we live. I'm lucky as I have both a New Zealand and UK passport so doors are always open to me. They showed me a name. London is the 6th Most Michelin Starred city in the world, higher than Hong Kong or Barcelona. Certainly food for thought as I often find myself wondering if we should move to the UK as a family (I have lived and worked there before), but I think I will stick to St Helena Island (which you should visit one day)! Hi Wendy, thank you for your comment. The weather and the cost of housing compared to net salary are also the 2 biggies for me. Utilities 1 month (heating, electricity, gas ) for 2 people in 85m2 flat 154. So, the tribalism, is everywhere in the world and the UK is still one of the most open and tolerant countries in the world. Mass immigration destroys societies, creates division and problems, immigration of few people and more controlled, where only the best can become English is what UK has to do. That so many immigrants come to the UKcomplain about itgo country hopping and then come back, says a lot about Britain, British culture.. and those people. It's to do with money laundering regulations. I have faced racism almost everyday including in my jobs. I think he'd be interested in staying if Scotland becomes independent. The Oxford English Dictionary defines "chav" as a "young person from the working class, usually without a high level of education." In 2004, it was announced as the Oxford Languages "Word of the Year" and entered the mainstream, appearing in documentaries and television shows. Loved my time in London (finished my law studies in Univ too), but i guess i have to depart and start looking to bigger gateway. Right after Norway and Switzerland. You do not need an address in the UK for yourself. We are a married couple with no children, heavily focused on work. Did I? Name something, chances are its better in any different European country. Nicer weather, a little more affordable than London, and here I feel home (although I'm not from here originally). I gracefully think they are blinded by some terrible political campaign and inability to see the bigger picture. The weather can be a bit daunting, right? Hello Cory I respect your opinion. We've left Germany for good a couple of months ago and we're now back living in England. In the 9 months Ive been back, I have been diagnosed with depression. As an example of how the problem was always there yet less visible I worked in a digital agency for a while where it was only British people who worked there and all of the women were de facto secretaries for the men, even though their roles were much more complex than this. This, sadly, has to be the most ludicrous, ill informed, nonsensical piece of writing I have ever had the misfortune to read. I changed my first name in order to integrate and find work. I had my ups, my downs, no money whatsoever, but good friends and great prospects. Well, England has gotten less safe because of the mass invasion of fighting age males from overpopulated Muslim countries. Fantastic article. But something, somewhere, went wrongthus, we decided to leave the UK. If anything, people are genuinely interested where I'm from and then proceed to tell me my home country is better than Britain as that's the British way - complaining :D. Weather: Especially the South East and London actually have less rain than most places in Europe and much less rain than New York or Seattle for instance (according to statistics). However, times are changing indeed. But spending all your life covering up your origins because of racism at school means you are living a lie. Discourse on chavs in contemporary Britain has been widely implicated in the . Hearty breakfasts with omelettes, sausages (not bread filled sausages like British ones, as Im sure you heard of Polish kielbasa), egg, sour cream and white cheese. This is not to say that England (or the rest of the UK) is not a good place to live. A very powerful piece and interesting from my perspective as a Canadian who left Canada to travel for many of the same reasons. Wasn't uni education free at one point? Do you mean British people with British passports who write articles about the UK? How's that logical? Very interesting! So what went wrong? Brits live in the illusion that its great here but in reality its a shithole. That's a pretty sad position to be in. I must say, I don't think your assertion that 'most people in the UK are racist' is fair. There are no real national parks, all the land is fenced off, houses are built to occupy the most possible space, 1/3 of the land is in the hands of the aristocracy and the other 2/3 mainly belongs to corporations. Politicians are trying to get rid of the Human Rights (read about it if you don't believe me) and without a flinch, the great British government passed "the most extreme surveillance law in the history of western democracy" (to quote Snowden). New Zealand is a close second, but the earthquakes and parochialism relegate it for me Im afraid. there are times I just break down in tears thinking about how screwed I really am and I am not a dual national so I cannot leave the United Kingdom any time soon even though I desperately want to leave. British people love Italy. 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